Alleged Ft. Hood Killer Linked To Obama: Nidal Was Homeland Security Adviser To Obama Transition Team

Thanks for exposing this lie for what it is, Scott -- just the latest in the long list of bizzare attempts to smear the President.

Heck I didn't know anything about this proposed story or link or whatever.

Look, I detest Obama, but this one was a ridiculous tie-in. That is llike saying "I go to newsvine. Adrian Thorne is on the vine. That makes me a Communist." STUPID!!! Oppose Obama for what he has done, not for imaginary connections

Major Hasan is an Army officer, with a commission from the Congress to serve at the discretion of the President to defend the US Constitution. We are at war with terrorist organizations. And he apparently volunteered to contribute to the transition team report to advise the income President (whomever that might be) on terrorism. There is only one thing about this that is the least bit unseemly: in hindsight, turns out Hasan is a traitor, a terrorist, and a mass murderer. But even that makes perfect sense if you understand the rules of the game and who our enemies really are. We trained them...and we trained them well. The perfected it and took it to the next level. I'm just surprised this sort of thing hasn't happened more often (only twice).

And you are what You Lie? After your little article the truth did come out, didn't it.

I'm surprised that you are here after what you called people.

And you are what You Lie?

Soon to be banned, judging by his comments.

A highly decorated veteran, eh? You sure don't act like one.

So how shoud a decorated veteran make a comment??

By sitting in his armchair and making comments like 99% of the members here?

Or by actually basing his comments on the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE of DOING something, versus the OPINION of those who "read something" or ""heard on the TV/Radio"???

Scott, you might want to take out the trash when you get back...

Who said I was sympathizing? Just because I don't call him a terrorist without having all the facts in makes me one?

YOU LIE!

YouLie-1337884

And you are what

I'm a veteran who was highly decorated for helping kill more terrorists like Nidal Malik Hasan for my country.

And what degree of terrorist sympathizer are you?

...and yet another seed evolves into inter-personal attacks and mindless name-calling.

A highly decorated veteran?

Yeah, not buying that.

No sir! The only reason YOU want to label him as such is for the sake of saying that it was a terrorist attack on Obama's watch (which you already have). I'm sure there are other highly decorated veterans in here who do not think this was a terrorist attack, because there is no evidence to support it! Show me the evidence and then I might agree with you, but until then it is just a baseless partisan attack.

Killers of our military members ARE TERRORISTS.

If I was to use your biased thought process and after watching 4 of my comrades die from a bomb delivered by the US air force. Should I suggest that the US pilots are terrorists? Give me a break....You Lieis a very appropriate moniker for you.

If in fact you served in either ares of operations. You would have work/fought along side Muslims. The idea of you not having a sensible view of your fellow man is really quite revolting. In saying that...if you are a vet, I suggest strongly to get the help you need.

Let's see. Saying praise to allah before he started shooting the soldiers, maybe this is evidence of him being a terroist? Seems like that to me!

When are you guys going to get your head out of the sand?

Why is it, you are always bringing up that GWB did this and GWB did that, but now that BHO is doing the same thing, you say it's okay because GWB did it. What a bunch of left wing hypocrites.

Combat vet here. In fact, former counter-terrorism specialist for Uncle Sam here. In fact, spent all day yesterday talking to the head of CT for USAR. In fact, married to an MP who spent all day Thursday @ the SRPC. Does my street cred get me a valid opinion here? Probably not. LOL (some of y'all are pretty freaking pathetic)

Maj. Hasan's actions and background are TEXTBOOK Al Qaeda. Our gov't isn't going to say that out loud to the American people...certainly not this Admin! But make no mistake about it: we just had the 1st major Islamofascist terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11! Weapons, tactics, profile, behavior leading up to the incident, ...it is ALL straight from the TTM that AQ developed by converting the CIA IAWT we gave them when they were fighting the USSR in Afghanistan for their own purposes and turning it on us after the Soviets were gone. And by ANY definition of the generic term, Thursday's attack at Ft. Hood was an act of terrorism.

Yes, to suggest otherwise is an insult to our troops, their families, those brave federal LEOs who help us every day, and the intelligence of anyone who doesn't have their head stuck so far up some nonsensical political agenda that they can't tell the truth to save their own lives; and does...in fact...almost call into question one's character and trustworthiness.

Sorry...just sayin'...

On background: I voted for the President and still support him. I consider the Bush Admin to have engaged in reprehensible criminal activity in the execution of the GWOT and to have catastrophically boggled some of what they didn't deserve to be impeached and/or imprisoned for. But a turd is a turd and a rose is a rose. And when you try to tell me a turd is a rose, I'm going to tell you you're either an idiot or a liar.

Killers of our military members ARE TERRORISTS

So, all presidents who have sent our military members to death are terrorists? Or all the experiments conducted on our soldiers which caused certain death illnesses? No. To me, a terrorist is someone who kills, or wants to kill an American citizen simply because they are an American citizen.

kenmorrow

Excellent post, with or without your obvious street cred!

To me, a terrorist is someone who kills, or wants to kill an American citizen simply because they are an American citizen.

Terrorism is the use of violence or the threat of violence against people of any nationality to further a political or personal agenda. There needs to be an investigation to determine whether Capt. Nidal was acting alone or on behalf of an organized group. At the end of the day, whether you call him a terrorist or a murderer is meaningless to the people who were wounded or to the families of those who were killed.

There needs to be an investigation to determine whether Capt. Nidal was acting alone or on behalf of an organized group

Agreed, until then...a turd is still a turd and a rose is still a rose. No matter how much credentials one has or who he conversed with. An assumption is still an assumption. Straight forward.

Scott Isaacs--

Kshark:

In this case, the media couldn't make money off being a mythbuster so it simply ignored that this was going around and that there were people who seriously believed it and that were propagating it even though the reality is what I have written about it.

LOL Well I definitely had no idea about this story or rumor or Chinese whispers (Telephone the kids game).

I'm laughing though. I'm not an Obama fan, but this is nonsensical.

who had a hand in composing a 40-page report

Scott Isaacs, please don't inadvertently spread another lie. Hasan was only a member in the audience. The 300 people that were the audience at this event didn't have any input into the document. It's kinda like if you went to a seminar and signed in. If after that, the people who sponsored the seminar wrote a paper, would you have been party to completing that paper?

There needs to be an investigation to determine whether Capt. Nidal was acting alone or on behalf of an organized group.

Absolutely amazing.

Every news source around the world has his name and rank on every page...

And redphish refers to him as a CAPTAIN.

Unbelievable.

double tap....sorry

Does my street cred get me a valid opinion here? Probably not.

Nope. Doesn't buy you much here. Claims of competence don't count. Good discussion does.

Our gov't isn't going to say that out loud to the American people...certainly not this Admin! But make no mistake about it: we just had the 1st major Islamofascist terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11!

This was a religious fundamentalist committing fatal acts of terrorism. This one was Islamic. Earlier this year, Scott Roeder committed a terrorist killing. He was a Christian.

Still, your analysis is correct.

And redphish refers to him as a CAPTAIN.

Excuse me, I slipped . I'll assume since you had to focus on that you have nothing of substance to add to the conversation.

You SLIPPED??

EVERY NEWS AGENCY REPORTED ON THIS. Radio, Television. Internet.

And you "slipped" by calling him a Captain??

IGNORANCE.

Still nothing I see.

If you can't "digest" the facts regarding the CORRECT identification of his rank before you blurt out your response, then obviously, the problem lies with you.

Do you refer to the President a State Representative?

Do you refer to the Queen of England a Prince?

Do you call a Spade a Diamond??

I get it. You've never made a single mistake in your life so you suspend the entire conversation to obsess over one that someone else made. It must be such a burden to be so perfect.

9 abortion doctors killed in the US. Quite a few less than Muslim terrorists have killed.

making a mistake is one thing. Stating the sky is Purple then saying ""you slipped" makes just as much sense.

Being so careless and insensitive about your error is called IGNORANCE.

There needs to be an investigation to determine whether Capt. Nidal was acting alone or on behalf of an organized group. At the end of the day, whether you call him a terrorist or a murderer is meaningless to the people who were wounded or to the families of those who were killed.

Mass murderer. Terrorist. Nutjob. Religious man. At the end of the day, they all fit.

If he was taking...encouragement...from others, you're damn right I'd want a trial.

I would think you would want a trial, period.

Jeez, kenmorrow...

When I read your bio...

I am a professional fly casting and fly tying instructor, outdoor adventure guide, and retreat planner.

... your street cred takes one hell of a hit. So I'll assume that in fact you were making a very big joke.

I've noticed, here on NV as in the real world, that the people who talk loudest are not often those who have the most to say....

What?!

You don't think of NV as "the real world"? Oh!

Well.........

On which bank of the River Styx does NewsVine sit?

I would think you would want a trial, period.

No, I meant a trial for his co-conspirators, if any.

The Far-right and the RIGHT WING would do ANYTHING to make a connection:

Remember anyone with a middle-eastern or Islamic sounding/looking name would

be suspect! The birthers and the like are all wing nuts.

There is NO connection between President Obama, his staff or anyone

connected to his adminstraion.

GOOD article had me going for awhile...

Arlene

Agreed. What the far right conveniently fails to mention is that the major is also linked to the other 299 participants just as firmly as he is "linked" to Obama.

Maybe they should all be investigated.

Funny.....they were all investigated before they were selected.

Makes you wonder, now, doesn't it??

Actually, my opening paragraph above about "street cred" wa a jab at all the "I'm a vet...you don't act like a vet" arguments going on above. I wasn't being serious...although the things I said were, of course, true.

Nonetheless, I enjoyed reading all the redefinitions of terrorism.

Terrorism, for anyone who actually cares what the experts think it means when they say it, is an act of violence against a non-combatant or defenseless target designed with the goal of instilling fear or panic into a populace to further a socio-political agenda.

The word has really been abused a lot over the past decade. It's barely recognizable anymore. But that is the real definition as a professional term. Notice that there is no mention of whether the target is animate or inanimate? Terrorism can be blowing up a bridge when no one is using it. Someone previous mentioned the threat of violence. Well, in most legal systems, a threat of violence is considered low-level violence: see assault statutes. So that doesn't need to be said twice. The key is that the target is assaulted, but has no means of self-defense and/or no direct role in the underlying conflict. But the real hallmark of the terrorist is this nexus of attacking the defenseless or uninvolved for the purpose of achieving some socio-political goal through fear and intimidation of a population. Is this such a hard concept to come to terms with?

The bank robber who takes hostages to effect his escape is not a terrorist because he assaulted the bystanders just to improve his odds of getting away (in his own mind). But the guy who robs the bank in a high-profile way in order to "make a statement" in the hopes of changing the bank's policies or gov't banking regs, etc. is a terrorist. The hermit in the woods who wanders into town one day and takes over the gas station with a shotgun and says he won't give up until the bank gives his family land back is...technically speaking...a terrorist. The disgruntled employee who walks into his place of work and shoots his boss and 3 of his co-workers because he's pissed at them is NOT a terrorist.

However, IF that disgruntled employee works for the gov't and has made it clear that he is disgruntled about POLICY of that gov't, and he walks in a shoots unarmed co-workers as a crazy, whacked-out, last-ditch "wake-up call" to his boss to change POLICY, he is most definitely a terrorist. But that's just in the strictest sense of the "clinical" term.

But let's say you've declared Ronald McDonald an official terrorist. And anyone wearing a Ronald McDonald suit, selling McDonald's hamburgers, or erecting building at intersections with Golden Arches signs is also officially a terrorist according to official proclamation.

Now here comes this guy dressed like Colonel Sanders. He's dressed like Col Sanders for years. And he's only sold chicken. Well...there were those few times we caught him with McDonald's hamburger wrappers and some crumpled up dollars in his pockets. And there were those gigantic red shoes in his closet that a few friends saw over the years. And nobody was really ever totally comfortable with the fact that everything in his apartment was red and yellow. But he dressed just like Col Sanders whenever he was in public and sold nothing but chicken that we were really aware of.

But one day he walks in to KFC in a Ronald McDonald suit and starts handing out hamburgers! The counter-terrorism unit responds and shoots him dead. In his apartment, there is a note that says he was tired of everbody picking on him because of his choice of favorite colors (red and yellow). So he had to "do something."

Now Ronald suits have been highly illegal for a decade or more. People don't just have them laying around. And to take this all the way home...this guy was a full-blooded descendant of Ray Kroch! And it turns out upon a couple of days of investigation that he had been talking to quite a few people over the years about McDonald's insurrections and uprisings, and had recently made a bunch of comments and postings on the Internet about how Ronald was getting a raw deal and that Ronalds everywhere should start passing out hamburgers everywhere they could, regardless of who got hurt...because the gov't was WRONG to put Ronald McDonald on the list of known terrorists. And he just wasn't going to take it anymore.

Ummmm...folks...that's a terrorist. Lone actor? Yep. Off his rocker? Probably. But just because he didn't go to Hamburger University and no McDonald's delivery truck was found parked behind his apartment building that could be traced back to McDonald's HQ does not mean he was not a Ronald!

Get it now? I tried very hard to draw with the fat crayons.

In the end, if one Islamofascist college professor or pediatrician can figure out how to build a nuke all by himself in a basement in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and put it in the trunk of a Ford Taurus and drive it to Chicago to a Bears game and set it off in the parking lot at half-time, are you going to say he wasn't a terrorist while the giant crater in the middle of Chicago glows in the dark for the next several years and we count the dead into the tens of thousands just because we couldn't connect him to UBL, the Saudis, the Iranians, the Syrians, the Pakistanis, or the Yememis? Does a terrorist HAVE to have accomplices? Since when?

So just how are you folks who are saying "wait for the facts...need a thorough investigation...must see if he was acting alone...did he have contacts to known terrorists" defining a terrorist these days? And on what authority?

First of all, we have the facts...plenty of them to declare this guy a terrorist. No one is making assumptions at all! Someone said it wouldn't matter to the dead and wounded if this guy was called a murderer or a terrorist. To that person I say...

You, sir or ma'am, are ignorant of that which you speak. The soldiers, federal law enforcement officers, and family members thereof of those who were killed and wounded on Thursday KNOW this traitor is a terrorist. They aren't arguing about it. They aren't wondering. They aren't "waiting for the evidence." The 5.7mm armor-piercing bullets designed for the sole purpose of defeating US military body armor that ripped through their bodies after Major Hasan stood up and exclaimed "Allah, Akhbar!" as he drew the well-heeled terrorist and Mexican drug cartel hitman's favorite handgun told them with absolute clarity everything they needed to know.

The FN Five-seven was specifically designed by Fabrique National to kill NATO troops by defeating ALL of our body armor out to 200 meters...a previously impossible feat for a handgun and most rifles. This pistol has virtually no muzzle climb, cycles extremely quickly, is laser-accurate, and takes 30rd magazines. It is designed for high-volume shooting at targets wearing modern body armor at ranges beyond normal hangun engagement expectations. That's why the media keeps saying "cop killer gun."

Hasan on the surveillance video from the 7-11 Thursday morning before morning prayers in his all-white linen prayer garments...that is the traditional dress worn for special occassions such as purification rituals before weddings...and funerals. It is usually what we and the Israelis intercept suicide bombers wearing...when we catch them before it's too late.

Hasan spent the past couple of months practicing extensively @ the local gun club w/the FN Five-seven he had just purchased legally from a gun shop in Killeen. But nobody can find any evidence anywhere of how he got the ammo...any ammo. The SS190 FN round is restricted for sale to law enforcement and military customers only because of its ability to defeat body armor. Purchases must be logged. He burned up a TON of that ammo. Where did he get it? Had he bought it legally, alarm bells would have been going off!

Hasan fired just over 100rds...4 magazines. His hit ratio was about 1:3. The hit ratio is very typical for such a scenario. What is NOT is the tactical training and preparation required to do what he did. Army doctors don't get CQB training (close quarters battle). And they certainly don't get a LOT of it! But to get off over 100 rds from a handgun in a room stuffed with modern US Army soldiers (even unarmed) in time of war on OUR HOME TURF after standing up and yelling "Allah Akhbar," and starting to fire a weapon, he had to do a LOT of very tricky things right. Our troops are trained in unarmed responses to terrorist attacks. They aren't helpless school kids or office workers!

Hasan is a terrorist just like I am a Texan. He is a poster child for the archetypal Al Qaeda terrorists we used to chase around before most of you reading this even knew there was an AQ. They are almost always "troubled," always academically accomplished in an area useful to Tangos (doctors, engineers, chemists, computer geeks), always described by everyone as "devout Muslims," usually described as "quiet" and even "loners," but they have one or two quirks: a fascination with guns, bombs, etc. and a taste for whiskey. Hasan had both in spades! (yeah, yeah, I know...you've all been led to believe devout Moslems don't drink alcohol. I already said you're naive, didn't I?)

Oh well, I guess y'all can go back to waiting for the "facts" and the "investigation" now. But....pssssssstttt.....most of the info YOU are wanting is already known. We generally get all of that together within 12-36 hours of a high-profile event like this. Presidents, Cabinet Secretaries, Service Branch Chiefs, CinCs, and theater commanders don't like to be kept in the dark for much longer than that. Then tend to start firing people for incompetence when you can't give them every minute detail after 24 hours. And that's because they know we have the ability to do it when the priority is high enough.

But if anyone reading this thinks for a second that anyone associated with the US Army is OK with y'all NOT calling Major Hasan a terrorist, you are SADLY...and I mean that very precisely...mistaken. People should have the wisdom and humility not to speak of that for which they have no understanding.

Actually, my opening paragraph above about "street cred" wa a jab at all the "I'm a vet...you don't act like a vet" arguments going on above. I wasn't being serious...

It is a bit embarrassing that no one (else) challenged your over-the-top claims. I checked because (... wait for it ... wait for it... here it comes...) I am a combat vet!

although the things I said were, of course, true.

Nope.

Nor in this post.

A "terrorist" is someone who uses violence against innocents to further a political agenda. The essence of "terrorism" is in the motivation and in the target.

A person who goes off the deep end and starts shooting people is not "furthering a political agenda". That person is a psychotic. Like the shooter in Florida.

From what we have heard so far, Hasan is a psychotic, not a terrorist. That makes a huge difference in how we (the military, the government, the public) should react.

It seems clear that there were many signals that this man was headed off the deep end. The Army must learn why he was not red-flagged. Personally, I fear that no one dared to be "politically incorrect" in flagging a Muslim officer. That would be very, very bad...

It seems, also, that Hasan's dementia was fueled by anti-Muslim discrimination. We need to know more on this, but it should bring all of us to reflect on our attitudes and behavior.

Bob, you've never heard of a guy quitting or retiring and going fishing? I'm 43. I enlisted @ 17. And I was severely wounded and got out in 1994. Done quite a bit of consulting work since then. And a whoooooooooole bunch of us happen to fly fish to maintain our sanity and decompress. Dig deeper: www.projecthealingwaters.org www.adaptiveflyfishing.com A great many things are not what they appear. For example, check the news page on the Adaptive Fly Fishing Institute website. Then check the board of directors page. Guys like us don't advertise, dummy. We leave the chest pounding and vet ballcap wearing to guys like you.

Please allow me to quote two of your passages:

We leave the chest pounding and vet ballcap wearing to guys like you.

Combat vet here. In fact, former counter-terrorism specialist for Uncle Sam here. In fact, spent all day yesterday talking to the head of CT for USAR. In fact, married to an MP who spent all day Thursday @ the SRPC.

When, precisely, are you bull@!$%#ting? First time? Second? All the time?

Who pounded their chest? Me? Where?

Credibility.......

Oh, yes... another quote:

Guys like us don't advertise

ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO

Oooooohhhh...I just read YOUR profile, Bob. Now assuming anything YOU said there is true, I take back the ballcap wearing remark. You wouldn't be caught dead with that crowd, would you? I got ya now. I've dealt with a few of your type who always wanted to shut down our programs to help OIF/OEF wounded warriors. They'd start with comments like, "Now don't get me wrong, I'm a vet myself. But..." Dual-national my ass, dude.

My wife was born and raised in in Germany to German parents. Moved to the US for work in 1991 as a member of an international artists' guild. She became a US citizen, renouncing her German citizenship, and is now a military police officer in the United States Army. And I've got 2 brothers, a nephew, (and me) who are all disabled vets...not from getting "shot AT a few times, dude." And because we're at war and they're all senior officers, 2 of them are in Afghanistan now and the 3rd just got recalled to active duty in Florida to fill a casualty assistance and wounded care slot (he's the special forces Colonel you'll see on the board of directors page).

Are we done playing the "mine's bigger than yours" game yet? Because this stuff is really annoying to me and probably a lot of fun for a REMF-commie like you.

Are we done playing the "mine's bigger than yours" game yet? Because this stuff is really annoying to me

Jeez...

I sure am sorry I rained on your parade... but the fact is that you started the "mine's bigger" nonsense. In this post, you've even recruited your brothers to stand for you... and your nephew! Let's not forget your nephew...

I really can't help you with this manifest inferiority complex engendered by all your military relatives. Gosh...having a wife who carries... that must be really tough...

As for me... Like most real veterans, I never bring that statute up first. I only speak of it when some idiot -- obviously blowing smoke -- starts making baseless claims.

Got me now?

You mean like the ridiculous dialogue between Louie-lou and Dave that I was poking fun at with the paragraph of my post that you attacked?

I assure you my statements are for real, Bob. I rarely reference them. But I was:

1. Making fun of those two bozos for their embarassing bickering.

2. About to address some things I rarely get into publicly, but which I do happen to have some genuine expertise in...of the type that traveled from classroom to back alley and battlefield, to briefings with heads of intel agencies, embassy station chiefs, ambassadors, and theater CinC's...even to about 400 classified reports that are part of the Congressional Record that bear my chop. Verify away if you like. (Oh, that's right...that dual-national thing would prevent you from having a security clearance. Now wouldn't it?)

Yeah...I got you. Loud and clear. O/O!

Sorry Ken and Bob you are both chest thumping. I've no problem with believing you are are both vets. Shake hands as vets. Then you can start again with politics. I do hate to see soldiers bash each other over being soldiers and you both know it's real easy to spot the fake ones.

Jay U.S.Army.

jaywow,

Voted for your post and completely agree. I detest this sort of thing. Unfortunately, you occassionally find yourself locked in a scuffle that becomes difficult to disengage from. But I am breaking contact at this point...regardless. It serves no good purpose.

Thank you!

No, I don't think I'll kiss and make up. He's a fake.

I'll stop here, though.

jaywow67

What do you know about it, you never served! /sarc

I see so many of these conversations, and I've been involved in a few as well. I will say that few things piss me off more than when people say that I am lying about having been in the Corps, or when they say that since I don't agree with their political beliefs that I must have been a s#itbird or something.

I know I bang this drum quite a lot, but this is why I respect the people on the vine who have real names, real avatars, and a bio that actually says who they are.

Also, the Vine has a lot of imposter's. Foreigners acting like they are Americans, fake veterans, people that act like they are from one side of the political spectrum, but say all of the things the other side wants to hear (fake converts), etc.

Credibility is hard to come-by in this forum, so we are forced to rely upon the strength of our words, and the cohesive structure of our ideas.

Real Names, Real Bio's, Real Avatars help to prevent the fakes from screwing-up the debate.

Real Names, Real Bio's, Real Avatars help to prevent the fakes from screwing-up the debate

Absolutely.

Sorry then Mike I would be gone. I feel that or private life is just that private. Having been in for as long as I was, and as long as my wife was, I have not intention of let some hot head from our area getting his mouth into gear because my views are not the predominate ones around here.

I'm sure others feel the same. I really don't give an asswipe if anyone believes who I am or not. I still haven't gotten over telling people how to do things and what I think of what they do, it will wear off at some point I'm sure.

Now if the Vine wants a registration I'm more than willing to have that, but on the Vine I want my own nick. Avatars, no one has ever asked me about mine so they can't mean much.

While I'm speaking my mind

I wish to hell that we had a button under the ( ! ) for troll.

jaywow67

I hear Ya'!

It's a delicate balance, and I can appreciate desiring a modicum of anonymity.

I agree about the troll button, but I've been called a troll, you've been called a troll, it's hard to be sure, but some out there really do just try to create havoc.

#2.17: "I feel that or private life is just that private."

Ditto. There are also some of us who have "escaped" abusive relationships and who need anonymity just for safetys sake.

That said, I really like it when people do fill out a brief bio because when you combine that with the kinds of comments they make, and the people on their friends list, you can pretty much come to a decision as to whether you like the person or not. It's funny, because I've seen some comments from relative newbies with which I agree, and think maybe I'd like that person as a friend. So, I go to their column, hopefully to see a biographical sketch and maybe a friend or two on their list, and discover they've been on the vine for months, have zero friends and no biographical sketch... and I mutter WTF and move right along. I don't care what people use as a screen name, but do have a preference for cute and clever. Ditto the avatar... but neither of those rank highly on my criterion list when it comes to whether I want to friend a person or not, or accept a friend request or not. What matters is how the person treats others on the vine, who their friends are, and what their bio says. You can get a pretty fair idea about someone from those things.

Well, I'm a pretty public persona nowadays. LOL

So anybody who wants to "vet" me can certainly do so! I have NOTHING to hide. And I speak my mind.

#2.21: "I have NOTHING to hide. And I speak my mind."

And you do that with a lot of dignity and grace. That counts for a lot. I don't even need to agree with those with differing opinions as long as they are civil.

:-)

I have no problem with anonymity. I use my real name, but I can understand those who prefer a pseudo. I have been stalked by an NV troll... swastika emails, death-threats and all. Living in France, I can laugh it off; but if I lived in the States I might feel very differently.

I do have a problem with phony avatars, fake bios, and such. Either a person should go with their "real life", or they should create a "fictitious but consistent" avatar and stick to it. Flipping around seems to me to be a form of dishonesty.

#2.23: "I do have a problem with phony avatars,"

Avatars don't bother me, whether real or fake. Mine is a real pet hamster I had (he passed away three months ago) - "Herbie." I figured a picture of a rodent fit nicely with my user name, "bitemore," which was once the name of a pet rat I had. My bio is real, however. Were it not out of fear of being stalked, I'd have no problem using my real name, but my fear is based in reality - an abusive ex - so I prefer not to take unnecessary chances.

#3: "Your headline had me going, Scott. I knew the truth and was ready to be incensed, but then I saw you wrote it, and thought, "huh???" Thanks for putting this out there."

Same here... are you a shrink or something? Your ploy worked, so I hope it will attract a gazillion hits and put an end to the nonsense. Excellent work, Scott.

#3.2: "Having worked in politics before..."

Aha! If a really great candidate comes along next year, maybe you should run his or her campaign... you're a natural! You do good stuff. Thanks!

#3.4: "I expect to be running a campaign for an Ohio House of Representatives candidate in 2010."

I wish I lived in Ohio! But I'm betting a lot of Ohio viners have just regained some interest in next year's elections!

Paranoid delusions?

The guy was an audience member at one of the several conferences that that took place last year. He had no official or active role on any committee. But don't let me interfere with your paranoid delusions...

...obviously one who read the title then jumped directly to comments. Sad... so sad...

Also an example of how both sides try to fan the flames (...over an electric light).

to fan the flames (...over an electric light).

fresh metaphor, I like that.

He was in the audience, and the report was unsolicited by the transition team.

#5: "Definitely a connection, it IS there in black and white so it got my vote."

Huh???? Are you saying that if you are in the audience for a play on Broadway, you are a member of the cast? Or if it is a rock concert, does that make you a member of the band? Or if it is a football game, does that make you a member of the team? Really? I can think of a few entities who owe me a huge paycheck if that is the case!

and you're being extrememly short-sighted if you think that "being a member of an audience" and being SELECTED as an expert in your field are the same damn thing.

Would you or Luminator mind providing where your info came from? I have only read two sources that didn't offer much insight.

what info have I provided? twisting the story?

Oh, did I read the wrong direction of your opinion? I read that you were possibly agreeing with Luminator and have read stories that go against Scott Isaac's opinion. Sorry if I misinterpreted.

Uhhhhhh Mike????? hahahahaah

Scott, unfortunately the "right" doesn't believe in the rule of law. They consistently ignore it in favor of prejudging.

For example, they have already prejudged that this murder (yes I believe he is guilty of that so yes I've prejudged him based on the evidence I have) was done for Islamic jihad reasons. Absolutely no proof of that. Yelling "God is Great" on your way to committing suicide doesn't prove jihad.

The right has already prejudged all Muslims because of this man's faith.

The right keeps putting their foot into their mouths and backsides at the same time.

Mike you are getting good at making up such playtime names. You should keep track of them so you can publish a book.

Sunday the Old Guard around here, many of us trained/taught/left from Hood will hold a vigil for the troops at Hood. We are going to do some money raising things for the families and do what ever else we can.

Stay loose.

Scott right now I don't know how they will work that out. I've been in contact with a Sgt. Major I know and he will get back to me and when we find out we will let you know.

A speedy trial and fed to the pigs? Just fyi

On October 1, 1946, the judgement was read: 12 of the defendants were sentenced to death, 3 sentenced to life imprisonment, 4 given prison sentences ranging from 10 to 20 years, and 3 were acquitted.

Link.

No mention of pigs tho, nor of families not being able to bury their dead. That's all in your "alleged" mind.

That all depends on what caused the coma he is in.......If the brave hero, officer Hunely capped him in the melon.....You may have a long wait......Vegetable Stew!

He was likely the reincarnation of the troll that he was the time before that.

Puddin?

It's not Puddin. Puddin came back as the Mentalist, then came back again as Homeboy.

Maybe it's Oliver Shagnastey? I'm not quite sure.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

I keep switching back & forth between the networks to see how they're covering this storry. Actually, I think they all have pretty much the same info (though I do do give Anderson Cooper big props for some of the info he has "scooped") - but FOX seems to be going out of its way to call this an Islamic terrist attack!

It may actaully be that - but until we have the facts....

Hannity seems hell bent on forcing every single guest to agree that this is "an Islamic terrist attack"....

Give it a rest.....

Given enough time - they'll be blaming Bill Clinton too!

Clinton did it!

(There. Done.)

you will be scrutinized by your faith and color, and not by a court of law, by some of the people in the U.S.

History shows it's always been that way, not just since 911.

The 60's had the KKK to fear........today we have Fox and the GOP RWC fringe.

Nothing's changed except the color of the sheets.

More narrow-minded, partisan hackery. clap-trap.

So, the GOP is the same as the KKK? Let me guess, you simultaneously condemn the people who equate Obama with Hitler?

This is the kind of one-demensional, empty-headed political insight that keeps the debate from ever advancing.

So, what color are the sheets now, or is your metaphor just meant to enrage without purpose?

you simultaneously condemn the people who equate Obama with Hitler?

Damm right I do. And I will continue to do so at every opportunity. Didn't like the reference when it was done to Bush. And the tea baggers using a picture of Dachau for their little anti-American get together the other day must have given the GOP a tingle in their butts.

Sorry jay, I was actually addressing GoldenGateMami_Susi #21.2 remarks, and I failed to convey that.

Mike,

Suzi did not say "GOP". She said "GOP RWC fringe". Why did you not quote correctly?

Oh, and.... did you see that Dachau poster at GOP Representative Bachmann's rally? Where the GOP House Leader spoke? Where the GOP House Whip spoke?

I'd say Suzi was too gentle in limiting her comment...

Oh, so you had to search out his statements. Usually, in a national tragedy as big as this one, the Homeland security head fellow would be on multiple public venues and giving updates and explaining how they failed in their duties. There have been many government officials and commentators on the national news outlets, just not Mr. Napolitano.

This isn't a tradgedy. This is a successful radical Muslim attack on America. The soldiers didn't die in a freak accident or of unexpected natural causes.

Your gang facilitated the death of those soldiers with sorry butt political correctness policies. You should be ashamed, as should Obama and Napolitano and every other liberal shidiot in this country.