
Did President Obama deserve to win the Nobel Peace Prize?
| Yes, his efforts up to this point validate it | |
| No, more results before he wins the medal |

An image of the famed Nobel Peace Prize medal
President Barack Obama was presented with the Nobel Peace Prize today in recognition of his attempts early and often in his young administration to foster international cooperation on important issues like nuclear non-proliferation, the decrease of active nuclear weapons among Russia and the United States (the two state actors with the greatest number of nuclear weapons) and his pursuit of a new start on foreign policy with the Middle East. It was clearly a strong urging by the Nobel Committee for him to continue these efforts until they bear fruit. Simple question: Did President Obama deserve to win the Nobel Peace prize?
I voted no.
I actually think this award will do more harm than good, politically.
I voted no also but I doubt it will really do him much harm politically. As far as I can tell he did nothing to seek it. Pretty much those who support him will continue to and those who don't won't.
Honestly, I think his being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize will do more to lower the prestige of it in many peoples eyes (and not because of Obama mind you).
I agree with that Bryant.
It's just another thing for the right wing to @!$%# about. Although, with their mindsets, it seems they will @!$%# about the way he walks even if he catered to their every desire.
Honestly, I think his being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize will do more to lower the prestige of it in many peoples eyes.
Only in the eyes of Republicans and they don't count.
Only in the eyes of Republicans and they don't count.
If only you realized what is so wrong with that statement, and how it effects the world.
It's just another thing for the right wing to @!$%# about. Although, with their mindsets, it seems they will @!$%# about the way he walks even if he catered to their every desire
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Both sides do it - the only question is which side is in power.
they count because they need to feel as though their concerns have been heard and considered by the President before they will consider supporting him in his attempts to improve the country and its relations with countries around the world.
But they are not going to support him no matter what.
He has to continue reaching out to them and allow them to slap his hand away so that the public can see what is truly happening:
OK. I buy this.
What's up with the "anti-America" crowd lately?
As far as the POTUS goes, what I'm seeing here is beyond surreal. The flip flopping on the judgement of anything he does is ridiculous. One week it's one thing, the next week the exact opposite.
It wouldn't matter if he was magically able to correct everything, people would still be ticked for no reason at all.
First it's wrong to have the Olympics, now it's wrong to accept the Nobel Peace Prize? From my perspective...America could use a little bump right now, we could use a little validation from the international community (and this is it)
As opposed to messing just about everything up. From the global economy to unilateral war, we've done a pretty shoddy job in our role as leader.
Give it back? Please pass some of what you're smoking, sounds like it's good stuff.
#3: ..."Give it back? Please pass some of what you're smoking, sounds like it's good stuff..."
Hi Nicey, your post has been one of the best ones I have read on here today. "Give it back"? is right. For what - these nuts? Are you kidding? That would be all that they would want - for now. And make these haters happy? No way. I would personally call the White House if he did and ask to speak to Michelle!
They must have lost their entire minds if they think the President should give back this Prestigious International Award that comes with $1.4 million that the President is giving to charity. Come on now- {and pass the cigarette)!
"Give it back"?
And insult the giver? Don't think that will contribute to world peace.
#3.2:..."And insult the giver?"
And according to the rules/myths of the Committee, you can not rescind it or take it back. Conversely, I don't think a recipient can "give it back".
btw, I don't think the President should even consider "giving it back! Not for these haters, not ever. I even said that ifPresident Obama would even consider it, I was calling Michelle!{remember the "radical angela davis with the firearm" one? :-)}
Since he did not earn it, and does not deserve it, I could care less what he does with it. By being given it, the entire Nobel Peace Prize committee has put the final nail in their own coffin (two other nails were AL GORE and JIMMY EARL). They will forevermore be known as an international joke for violating their own principles (it is supposed to be for results, or at least years of effort at diplomacy, or good works, not for 10 days and a historical election.
#3.4: ...."(it is supposed to be for results, or at least years of effort at diplomacy, or good works, not for 10 days and a historical election....
And who told you that? Or is that the way YOU would like for the rules to be? You cannot turn their rules into your rules!
If their rules are not to your liking, then come up with your own Rules, Selection Committee, and money$$, and give it to whomever you like the most!
I could care less what he does with it.
And he and the Norwegians could care less that you care less.
THis is an opinion poll, and I gave it. If you don't like opposing opinions, DON'T READ THEM!!!
If you don't like opposing opinions
I love them so I can give my opinion back in kind.
Exactly my point.
DON'T READ THEM!!!
I thought this was your point.
I can't wait to see "The Daily Show" tonight, I thought last weeks, "We didn't get the Olympics F^&*% you America!" was hilarious, whatever they are going to do for this is going to be hysterical.
In my opinion it is too soon to be honoring Pres. Obama. The results are what matters and we have yet to see them. In about 4 or 5 years, maybe but not now. I can just hear it now that this was done as a political platform. I applaud the fact he is trying to do a lot of stuff but the best way to do it is slow and steady.
I think he should give it to someone else who has already accomplished peace already. He can still get one in the future.
#5: ..."I think he should give it to someone else who has already accomplished peace already. He can still get one in the future.
As you will see if you download or just go to the video of the Nobel Prize Committee President, the award is not just given for "accomplishments/done deeds" but the direction being taken in the name of peace and harmony. The award was not given for any "electoral politics" but for the emphasis on human rights" that has an affect on the international climate" at large.
This is an "international award" not just something that the President has not done in the United States.
I think he should give it to someone else who has already accomplished peace already.
And who would that be?
I'm sure there is someone out there.
President Obama got it for what now? I feel he should get it if his policies work out. Jimmy Carter got Egypt and Israel to sit down and sign a peace treaty. I think it's too early for awards for things that haven't happened yet.
I'm sure there is someone out there.
Just any old someone will do.
#6.2: ..."Just any old someone will do.
What they all are really saying is anybody except President Obama!
Please see what the President of the Nobel Prize Committee said was the reason they gave it to President Obama-unanimously: "he has shown Hope for a better future; he creates a new intentional climate of good will and peace; he follows the ideals of the committee with the emphasis on human rights and not electoral politics; he follows the ideals of the committee; they like the direction he is going towards diplomacy and peace and they are happy with their choice ;and so on and so on.
President Obama was not selected to receive the prize for what he has done, but what he REPRESENTS for the future and he how he wants the world To BE not HOW IT IS.
President Obama was not selected to receive the prize for what he has done, but what he REPRESENTS for the future and he how he wants the world To BE not HOW IT IS.
Most people of all stripes want a better world. Many times we even agree on how the world should be improved..........where we disagree is how do you accomplish the goal.
Here though is the problem with what the Nobel committee has done. They have honored him with the award for his ability to give a speech saying how he stands against nuclear proliferation. Fine, well and good. What happens though if by the end of his term as President we find that Iran and Korea (both very real possibilities) have nuclear weapons and as a result other countries in there respective areas increase their arsenal? How is that going to look? That is the difference between setting the goal and achieving the goal. It isn't enough to set it - people do that every New Year, but only a few get the benefits by achieving it.
Here is another question beyond those speeches has he actually taken action. Even symbolic ones like standing down our arsenal. Can you imagine the uproar over that? Isn't that electoral politics. How about signing a treaty? Granted I don't think it would get past the Senate but at least it is an action. Has a date for any disarmament talks been set? Has one country been inspired by President Obama's speeches to change their nuclear policies?
How come President Obama receives it for speeches but President Clinton doesn't deserve it for brokering a deal to keep nuclear weapons out North Korea? An actual action (granted we later find out Kim Jong Ill didn't keep up his end, but that wasn't figured out till much later and at least Clinton did something)
As to others who might be more worthy, well how about:
--Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia â imprisoned for campaigning for human rights in the PRC,
--Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China's communist system. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square Massacre.)
--Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly 80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan and Afghanistan over the past 15 years
--Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
--Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N. special envoy to Darfur
These are people who not only give speeches but have take action and do so at great risk to themselves. Isn't that more worthy ?
In the end this is just one last "kick in the leg" (their words from what I hear) to President Bush that started with President Carter and VP Gore. At least they had accomplishments that could be pointed to beyond a couple of speeches. At least with them the first thing said receiving the Peace Prize isn't universally "For what?"
#6.4: .."In the end this is just one last "kick in the leg" (their words from what I hear) to President Bush that started with President Carter and VP Gore. At least they had accomplishments that could be pointed to beyond a couple of speeches. At least with them the first thing said receiving the Peace Prize isn't universally "For what?"
The video of the President of the Nobel Prize Committee is on line and available to see exactly why the Committee selected the President of the United States for the Award. He explains, in detail, why President Obama was the choice of the Committee by a unanimous vote.
I looked at the video on last evening and again today, so I have done my homework. And trust me it is for more than "giving speeches".
So, I'm asking again here - what has he done. Name one policy, one treaty, one agreement, one action - anything that Obama has done to can be listed as an accomplisnment for World Peace.
I can sum up your link with a simple statement "We like this guy better than the last guy". Do you really think lives up to the ideals that the Nobel Peace Prize supposedly represents? Particularly when you compare it others that have been nominated and have won the Peace Prize.
I'm not saying in 4 years President Obama won't have any accomplishment or two of his own that could at least be argued as being worthy but right now all he has is what amounts to campaign promises (how are those working out by the way?).
#6.7: ...So, I'm asking again here - what has he done. Name one policy, one treaty, one agreement, one action - anything that Obama has done to can be listed as an accomplisnment for World Peace...."
So why aren't you contacting the Committee and asking them, again, what criterion they used to select President Obama; they made the choice unanimously!
You want to discourse with me over a decision that the Committee made, which I agree with and you don't. But you can not overrule their decision because you don't like it. You can't tell them that they were wrong in their decision without knowing the criteria they used. Apparently you would not have used the same criteria they used, {you would probably count accomplishments, but that is not what they surveyed and analyzed) and they did select President Obama using their criteria - NOT YOURS.
You keep asking a question hoping that the "answers" will change, but they won't.
And as far as perhaps "in 4 years", I see a pattern here which is "delay, delay, kill". Does that sound familiar?
--Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia â imprisoned for campaigning for human rights in the PRC,
--Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China's communist system. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square Massacre.)
--Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly 80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan and Afghanistan over the past 15 years
--Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
--Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N. special envoy to Darfur
We'll put these worthy folk on the list but none of them have world wide recognition.
Why is it when someone disagrees with President Obama they are a hater? I wish the President nothing but success because I want the country to succeed. Unfortunately some of the things he is doing are not to my beliefs and as a US citizen, I have the right to say so. Some of the things he wants to accomplish are in agreement with me but I think he is moving too fast without planning.
According to the list of Nobel Prize winners: Anwar Al-Sadat,Mother Teresa, Menachim Begin, Jimmy Carter, Martin Luther King Jr., Woodrow Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt are just a few who have won the award. How could President Obama have already accomplished what they have? I know he is trying to promote peace but what has actually been accomplished? In my opinion, the award needs to be given for accomplishments . I just think it's too early to say that is all.
Why is it when someone disagrees with President Obama they are a hater? I wish the President nothing but success because I want the country to succeed. Unfortunately some of the things he is doing are not to my beliefs and as a US citizen, I have the right to say so. Some of the things he wants to accomplish are in agreement with me but I think he is moving too fast without planning.
No one is saying YOU are a hater. Of course, you can disagree with the President. We Democrats disagree with him, too. It's those who are praying for him to die and go to hell who are the haters.
Yes, I feel that our President, President Obama did indeed deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. Relative to what he has already done, with respect to the work that he was committed to and accomplished, prior to his Presidency along with meeting with Foreign Dignitaries shortly after he came into office with the focus on World Peace, stands on its own merit. I find, that what has not been justifiably noted and discussed, is the fact that President Obama has monumental quandaries that he is working on to remove from we, the American people. Quandaries, that came about under George Bush's Administration. If the U.S. had received the Olympics taking place here, one can only imagine the positive impact it would have had on the economy. The number of people that could have had jobs, the number of businesses that would have profited, not to mention the positive impact that the Olympics would have had on the country is overwhelming. I feel that our President had similar hopes for us, the people of the U.S., and I found it very appalling that some Americans actually cheered when the U.S. was eliminated and pounced on the President with negative comments. I feel that with only nine months in Office, our President has out done some previous Presidents.
I think the reward was premature at best, a mistake at worst. I like Obama's rhetoric, and I like some of the steps he's taken in the last 10 months, but so far I'm not seeing anything that's been so outstanding as to produce the seemingly miracle results an award such as the Nobel Peace Prize would imply there has been.
I mean, hey, I'm sure my neighbor has just as many ideas as Obama on ways to make the world and our country a better place, but his theories wouldn't merit him a nomination, let alone the prize. Likewise for myself. And just about everyone reading this blog.
I keep leaning towards all those tired cliches to describe it: Cart before horse, eggs that haven't hatched, so on and so forth.
I mean, hey, I'm sure my neighbor has just as many ideas as Obama on ways to make the world and our country a better place, but his theories wouldn't merit him a nomination, let alone the prize.
Well, let him run for President. Then maybe he can make the world a better place and merit a nomination.
in other news, the film "where the wild things are," which opens next friday, has won the academy award for best picture.
in its announcement, the academy said, "the filmmakers had clearly made an impressive attempt to adapt a screenplay for this rather short children's book, and has obviously set out to bring millions of people together for 90 minutes of happiness."
who can argue with that?
p.s. — the real problem is that this just gives the entire right-wing of america an extremely valid point to make, in another effort to criticize the president as nothing more than a figurehead for scary socialism. this may have been a positive thing when seen simply from the point of view of international relations (although not for the dalai lama), but i dont see how it helps obama get any meaningful social reform policies pushed through, and i think it puts his permanent military occupation of iraq and his upcoming decision on troops in afghanistan in a horribly confused light.
the right-wing is already dominating the national discourse, using nothing but utter nonsense. now they have something real to complain about. i disagree with him winning the prize, but i dont have a lot of complaints about it — it's theirs to give. but i dont think they're doing us any favors, nor are they doing much for obama's near-term political careers.
the real problem is that this just gives the entire right-wing of america an extremely valid point to make, in another effort to criticize the president as nothing more than a figurehead for scary socialism.
Don't worry. They don't need valid points to criticize him. They criticize him for breathing regularly.
Don't worry. They don't need valid points to criticize him. They criticize him for breathing regularly.
no, i know! thats why i'm worried. they are dominating the media by using patently ridiculous claims. having a valid complaint will only strengthen their position.
I voted no, meaning that it was too early for him to receive it and not that he doesn't deserve it. If this prize is given for accomplishments toward world peace, than it is definitely too early. What has he accomplished toward world peace besides giving a couple of speeches and apologizing to the world for America?
What will it mean for Obama politically? I think it will turn into dead weight for him. Now that he has received it, expectations will be high. And if he does accomplish something toward world peace, I think him already receiving the NPP will diminish the importance of what was done.
#1.3:.."....If nothing else, he should split it with GWBush and the Republicans; without their legacy, he would never have appeared so good, so even-handed.Seriously, I'm not making a snide comment, if there hadn't been the last eight years of turmoil, the Committee would have never thought to give Obama the medal.
How do you know? That's not what the Committee said was the reason they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama. You want to make it about gwb and the repugnants, but it is not! It is about Barack Obama and they gave it to who they wanted to, unanimously.
And what are you calling "legacy"? Do You mean the "total destruction of the us economy", Please!
What is wrong with you people? You still love gwb and the repugnants after what they did to our country? Unbelievable! But then, you must be a repugnant to even say what you did anyway.
YES, President Barack Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize-without a doubt. And he should not split it with anyone!
What is this? A down payment for what Ob1knobe is going to do for them? It is meaningless. Its value has been rendered cheap, perhaps downright worthless. Whatever happended to someone earning a prize? Standards? Results for efforts and accomplishments? It is an insult to any thinking, hard working american who knows you don't get paid if you don't show up for work.
#1.4: ...."Carter and Gore this was the committee taking a jab at President Bush...."
And what exactly did President Carter have to do with bush?
#14.1: Ask the Nobel Committee. This information doesn't fare too well for your repug leaders/war criminals, who gutted American and help ruin the world economy does it?
{shrug} They didn't agree with policies of the last administration. Personally I think it reflects badly upon them. It has long been the impression that the Nobel Peace Prize was about honoring someones achievements to further world peace. The idea that they awarded it to a person more to make a political point and less about that recipients achievements just cheapens the prestige of the award I think. So, much so that 7 years later it still looks like they are trying to snub the last administration.
#6.10:...."In my opinion, the award needs to be given for accomplishments ..."
At least you are "keeping it real" by saying "in my opinion". And since the Committee did not ask for either of our opinions, that is all "we" can say. The Committee made the decison based on "their opinion" and at this point, that is all that matters.
We can not say "because he didn't.. do... that they should not have...." It is THEIR game AND their RULES. We are basing their decision on what WE want the rules to be, not on what they want the rules to be and are.
And that is not how this or any game is played. Your or my rules do not apply in their game. As I have stated prior, if you don't like the game, don't hate the "players", change games. And if you can not find a game you like, construct your own. This way you can make the rules, interpret and apply the rules the way you want, and give your prize to anyone you wish to [and probably like]. Others can disagree with your decision, but they can not say that you are wrong.
I happen to like President Obama as a dad and human being. Even though I didn't vote for him as the candidate I wanted for President, I still happen to get a smile out of a lot of the things he does. I didn't think President Obama or John McCain met what I believed would make a good match for my requirements for President. I do support the office of President and want the country to succeed. President Obama has a lot of the goals that are important to me but I disagree with the way he wants them done.
As far as this award, it's now water under the bridge and the committee has made their choice. I know of many people who have worked all of their life to make a difference , like cancer research and education, that have deserved it. Like I said , in my opinion it needs to be about accomplishments.
I do support the office of President and want the country to succeed.
You are a rare one. Wish we had more like you.
No, I don't think he's done even close to enough to fulfill the criteria of a Nobel Prize...
That being said I am not one of the people who thinks this is merely another sign that he is the anti-christ.
Just an over-hyped politician.
Well, he may or may not deserve it, but he did nothing to seek getting it. And you gotta admit he is doing things that no other President has tried and has high goals in seeking peace in the middle east. And he sincerely means what he says in regards to that issue ! So, what the heck, give it to him, if for no other reason then to make him stand out to other countries which will make them see this is a new era in which peace is more important then war, and discrimination ! Who knows ? Maybe this will influence other nations to be more cooperative with him !
If you were the leader of a country trying to seek peace with the U. S., wouldn't you be more inclined to seek this with a president that had a Nobel peace award then one who didn't.
It's kinda like choosing a party to go too ! I would rather go to the party that a rich man is throwing then to go to the one that a poor man is giving because he has more to offer !
They didn't recognize with policies of the sustain administration. Personally I take it existent reflects badly upon them. It has strong been the feeling that the Nobel Peace Prize was about honoring someones achievements to additional cosmos peace.
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They didn't recognize with policies of the sustain administration. Personally I take it existent reflects badly upon them. It has strong been the feeling that the Nobel Peace Prize was about honoring someones achievements to additional cosmos peace.
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