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Declaring Jihad On "Uncle Tom"

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It did not pass by unnoticed to me this week when, even before Barack Obama was inaugurated to office, Al Qaeda had produced a video denouncing him. However, it is the way that they denounced him that is most interesting because the simple fact that Al Qaeda denounces United States' presidents is a well-known fact. In fact, the line of attack Ayman Al-Zawahiri used was rather fascinating.

Ayman Al-Zawahiri took to the videotapes (where he is at he can no longer take to the airwaves so he takes to VHS and cassette tape when he feels it sufficiently important, VHS when it is very important) to denounce Barack Obama as what best translates into American slang as an "Uncle Tom" or "house slave." Those are some pretty heavy words from the Z-Man so he must be pretty disturbed about Obama's election to the White House. He is and his specific criticism reveals precisely why.

Al Qaeda, for as long as it has been around, has been about terrorism as a means to fight colonialism, imperialism and all the other "-isms" that emanate from America, Israel and Western Europe but, particularly since 9/11, mostly from America. Al Qaeda thrives when the Islamic populace perceives a boot upon its neck because that is when Islam sends its sons to jihad with Osama and Co. With a groundbreaking election in the United States, Al Qaeda's entire operating equation changed.

To us here in the United States, we elected a black man to the White House which was historic in its own right. However, things look much different outside the United States. Heretofore, Al Qaeda could count on cultural differences to work in their favor. "Look!" they would tell young Muslim men in madrassas "There is that white man Bush who is leader of the imperialists in Iraq and Afghanistan that look just like him!" The madrassa in Pakistan is to Al Qaeda what Parris Island, South Carolina is to the United States Marine Corps: where they train their soldiers. As any good general knows, to fight an effective campaign you must define your enemy to your men not as human but as inhuman, as the "other." There are different strategies of doing this and Al Qaeda uses the strategy that identifies every American as a representative of a foreign culture trying to crush Islam into dust, urging on their young warriors to their hopeless, but well-covered by the media, deaths. They had a good thing going until November 4 because the head looked just like the beast they were describing to their young charges.

On November 4, to the most world press coverage in history, a black man whose father was from Kenya (where Islam thrives) was elected the president of the United States and created the greatest paradigm shift by a president elect since Reagan's 1980 election announced that America was no longer the loser it was in Vietnam, it would not be playing softball on the weekends with the Soviet Union at the SALT II treaty summits and we were not going to surrender another inch in the Cold War. Electing Barack Hussein Obama (and after the campaign, they all know his middle name is Hussein) took Al Qaeda's square peg and pneumatic hammered it through a round hole. They can no longer point to a white man and say "There is the enemy boys, go on jihad against him!" They have to point to a man with the same or darker skin color as these young men, whose father's family hailed from an Islamic land, whose name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and then say "There's the enemy boys, go on jihad against him!" That's tantamount to telling them to go on jihad against themselves because Obama is far more similar to them than Bush was different. The President of the United States is no longer a recruitment tool for Al Qaeda, he is a strategic problem of monumental proportions.

Here is this man who looks like them, has a name like them and is selling hope to everyone on the globe and they have to dehumanize that? That is a tall order which calls for soaring (or lower than the gutter) rhetoric. Thus, Ayman Al-Zawahiri took to his VHS tapes this week to call Obama the ultimate "Uncle Tom." If we apply what we know as Americans about the term, we'll see what Zawahiri was saying. He was saying that Obama is nothing but a house slave to the departing Bush, a caricature saying "yessa massa" to the white overlords behind the scenes that are telling him what to do, essentially that he is part of this white imperialist cabal while wearing the skin of a black man. He is not similar to you, Zawahiri was saying to them, he is as much an infidel as George Walker Bush, Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush, or Mikhail Gorbachev... all of whom Al Qaeda has previously went to war with and had varying amounts of success.

What are Ayman Al-Zawahiri's nightmares made of now? Primarily that his chief recruitment base will look at Obama, listen to his "Only in America could my story be possible" narrative and then decide that instead of sending their son on jihad they would rather send him to Harvard and pray to Allah that their line produces a leader of the free world like Barack Obama Sr's line did. That young Muslims abroad will look at Obama, how he assimilated into Western culture and want to be like him rather than bring harm to him. That Obama's offer of hope, change and the interwoven story of immigrants coming to America to make it big will seduce his recruits away from sleeper cells in America and Europe and towards the mainstream of the country they live in. Ayman Al-Zawahiri's greatest and most disturbing fear is that young Muslim men no longer want to become Osama, they want to become Obama.

This is his greatest nightmare because it is the beginning of modernization in Islam. Males aren't hostile towards foreign cultures and religions. Females have the right to go bareheaded and drive and move in the street unaccompanied by a male relative. Some of the most adventurous Muslims might marry Christians or, God forbid, Jews and not be killed by religious enforcers because there will no longer be religious enforcers. It would be the unraveling of Ayman Al-Zawahiri's entire world, belief system and life's work in front of his eyes in but a few short years. That is what sent him racing through his knowledge of American culture for a way to discredit Barack Obama to his acolytes in the most petty and inglorious way possible, because as soon as they want to become Obama instead of Osama, Ayman Al-Zawahiri's life is over.

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{"commentId":4163397,"authorDomain":"njb"}

I hope you are right.

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Reply#1 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:32 PM EST
{"commentId":4163984,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}

Not only is Barack Husein Obama a difficult man to demonize but Hillary is an important reassurance to Israel. This means that there is the possibility of a solution to the Israeli-Palestine conflict. This is the seed of war in the Middle East. If progress is made jihad will be less important. Barack in the White House will at least confuse the jihadists since he is similar to the young recruits which will cause a cognitive dissonance. There is someone in the great Satan who is similar, and at the head of power.

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#1.1 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:13 AM EST
{"commentId":4164038,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

jade:

I think this causes great cognitive dissonance in their movement because the America that these young men know would NEVER elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama as their chosen leader. With Obama as America's president no longer can ANY ethnic group legitimately say they feel like they do not belong. When you can aspire to the highest office in the land (and many Muslims can't even in their own countries) you have reached equality. Seeing Obama for Muslims is like being seduced by Western culture except their leaders have no choice because the POTUS is everywhere, especially on satellite TV. If they like Barack and don't like Osama, there's a chance someone might turn him in for the reward.

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  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:26 AM EST
{"commentId":4165328,"authorDomain":"ladyblue999"}

I think that Obama's election also causes a certain degree of cognitive dissonance here in the United States, in citizens of every color. His election has challenged many viewpoints WORLDWIDE. Hopefully everyone can move past their confusion. Maybe then many can stop at least some of the  lashing out and constant criticism before he has even been sworn into office.

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#1.3 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:31 AM EST
{"commentId":4172918,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

ladyblue:

I've been told that in many urban areas young black men are coming into barbershops to get their dredlocks cut off, talking about joining the military to make it a career, etc. I think there is most certainly a domestic potential for improvement because of Obama breaking the color barrier as well.

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#1.4 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:37 PM EST
{"commentId":4182468,"authorDomain":"zepherys"}

Indeed Ladyblue999. The election of Obama is going to have significant impact on the cultural landscape of America. Very insightful post. This scenario really does change alot of things around the world.

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#1.5 - Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:18 AM EST
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{"commentId":4164439,"authorDomain":"krishna109"}

I think you made some good points. Obama's election was a real setback for the propaganda efforts of al-Qaeda and similar groups who thrivedon demonizing America. Al-Zawahiri and his cohorts must be quite upset!

I wouldn't be too optimistic about a settlement of the Palestine/Israel conflict however. Both Clinton and Bush tried to solve the problem-- Bush's efforts were really not that great-- but Clinton really did try. But-- they both waited 'till relatively late in their terms of office to make it a focus. Obama has stated that he will make it a priority from early on. However (and this is no reflection on Obama or any American politician) I believe the situation cannot be solved at this point. Hamas is in power and they are committed to the destruction of Israel. There is no "compromise" on that. The only possibility for peace is for Hamas to be out of power.

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Reply#2 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:13 AM EST
{"commentId":4164634,"authorDomain":"attributes"}

Yep, Hamas Hezbollah and Co are all groups given birth to by countries hostile towards other cultures such as Iran and Syria .

The past 50 years of the history of Libanon is nothing but the rape of a once upon a time well to do country which was infiltrated by Syria and Iran with groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas following the thread of the money ends/begins with Saudi Arabia.

The Clash of civilizations. For the sake of future generations lets hope the Islamic sickos are neutralized. The Islamic cultures with their obsession of conquering questions the religious component in societies. There are 2 choices: Islam wins and the Abrahamic religions turn the globe into a slave self-destructive hellhole as we see in the territories they have conquered or Secularism neutralizes these mentally retarded societies and moves on into higher levels of awareness.

Religion and Monarchies go hand in hand. It is a powerful bond that produced the world we live in. It claims to be godly but Divine it is Not!

Declaring Jihad on Uncle Tom is very smart indeed! The Nature of Uncle Tom is based on the Free Spirits/Rebels/Pirates/Mercenaries of History. Uncle Tom's Country is still the home of the Spiritually Free, the Brave and the Wanderers. If Islam thinks to subdue Uncle Tom, Haha Good Luck, Bring it on.

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#2.1 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:45 AM EST
{"commentId":4164658,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

krishna:

My personal belief from the time I have spent learning about the elusive goal of "Peace in the Middle East" leads me to believe that there will have to be a massive shift in power from one side to the other to get a deal done, especially now that we're dealing with three parties (Israel, Hamas and the PLO). My thought is that one side would need to get blackmail on the other side's leaders tantamount to Nixon using the K-129 attempted Soviet nuclear submarine rogue attack on Pearl Harbor in 1968. Navy intelligence documented it with 22,000 pictures and a nearly airtight case that it was hijacked by 11 members of the crew who triggered a failsafe system we shared with the Soviets on the missile they were attempting to fire which, literally, exploded in their face and sent the K-129 3 miles deep approximately 350-400 miles W/NW from Hawaii. Even though there's no hard evidence there's pretty good circumstantial proof that the KGB tried to rogue fire on the US by pretending it was the Communist Chinese, thus triggering a nuclear retaliation that their military would be in position to mop up and assilimilate into the USSR. In fact, hard evidence of the K-129 rogue attack is likely what Kissinger fed Mao to crack open the door for Nixon to open up China and the rift between our two enemies.

A similar shift in leverage and someone to replicate Kissinger's efforts would be needed to force all sides to settle.

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#2.2 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:55 AM EST
{"commentId":4164667,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

Eli:

What has happened to Lebanon is very similar to what happened to Switzerland during WWII and Vienna during the Cold War: all sides of the conflict operated there because it was their easiest portal of entry with the least obstacles in the way. Though, since these are countries with lesser firepower and no sense of MAD, Lebanon has endured almost endemic violence while the other two were just fraught with intrigue.

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#2.3 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:59 AM EST
{"commentId":4169374,"authorDomain":"attributes"}

Scott:

Switzerland and Austria were never destroyed to the level as we see in Lebanon. The populace did not move out as we see in Lebanon. When murdering hordes (Hezbollah) from Syria moved in most Lebanese moved to other countries.  It is Syria who had, and still has the intention to extend its borders to include Lebanon. Damascus will never give up that idea. While Israel is not going to allow Syria to have its way. Present day Lebanese are second and third generation kids of the Hezbollah...and the fight continues as the original Lebanese are not recognizing the intruders.

It is really sad. Once upon a time, not so long ago, Lebanon used to be called Little Switzerland of the MidEast. 

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#2.4 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:43 PM EST
{"commentId":4169660,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

Eli:

Iran still has its hooks into Lebanon as well as Saudi Arabia and the United States who are jointly supporting the current elected (Sunni) government in Lebanon. There's enough tinder to light another civil war... it's just waiting for the large enough spark.

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#2.5 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:17 PM EST
{"commentId":4204806,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Here's the cultural background behind Zawahiri's remark concerning Obama. As most know, or should know, Dr. Zawahiri comes from a rather high social background in Egypt. In Egypt, as well as some other Islamic countries of mixed race, there is a caste system of sorts. Anwar Sadat, whose assassination was orchestrated by Dr. Zawahiri while a member of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, was the son of a light-skinned Arab father and a black Sudanese mother. As a result, he labored his entire life suffering from this prejudice among Egypt's powers that be. This is the proximate reason behind Zawahiri's remark and it probably did even more harm among Muslims of similar complexion than he as yet imagines.

The madrassa in Pakistan is to Al Qaeda what Parris Island, South Carolina is to the United States Marine Corps: where they train their soldiers.

Not precisely. The radical madrassas in Pakistan function primarily to indoctrinate the young in the strictures of Deobandi Islam which is an offshoot of Saudi Wahhabism and while it is true that the worldviews of the two don't differ all that much the actual military training for these recruits occurs primarily at camps scattered throughout the FATAs.

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#2.6 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:45 PM EST
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{"commentId":4166706,"authorDomain":"kimscentral-webmail"}

Muslims have been blowing up muslims for years-

sadly, this will make very little difference

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  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:11 AM EST
{"commentId":4166741,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}

Yes, the American people freely choosing PRESIDENT Barack Hussein Obama as the leader of the FREE world most certainly f**ked Al Qaeda all up!

When I heard the report on al Zawahiri's communication, I had to laugh. Their desperation was so obvious - resorting to juvenile name-calling taunts. Ya gotta love it!

It would be great if this would result in al Zawahiri and bin Laden having to resort to blowing themselves up instead of being able to manipulate young, impressionable Muslim men and women to do it for them.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:14 AM EST
{"commentId":4170650,"authorDomain":"krishna109"}

"It would be great if this would result in al Zawahiri and bin Laden having to resort to blowing themselves up"

Those types of terrorist leaders usually manage not to blow themselves up-- rather, they convince their gullible followers to do it (while they themselves manage to scrape by).

I could be wrong, but I think the main effect America's election of a minority president will have is to decrease the influence of terrorist spinmeisters worldwide. And the fact that we elected a black man may well set back the jihadis efforts in Africa-- an area where they have been making a major push.

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  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:06 PM EST
{"commentId":4171682,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}

Those types of terrorist leaders usually manage not to blow themselves up-- rather, they convince their gullible followers to do it (while they themselves manage to scrape by).

I know. I should have issued my sarcasm alert. ;-) It's never ceased to amaze me that the radical element has never openly questioned why, if the leadership thinks it is such a darned dandy idea to explode, they don't line up to do it themselves. It's sad that they don't recognize how they are being played for fools.

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#4.2 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:07 PM EST
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{"commentId":4167562,"authorDomain":"paulpeg1"}

Uncle Tom? Dude was elected by the people, something they try to achieve with weapons and terror, even against their own people that disagree with them.

Uncle Tom would only be appropreiate if you believe you have a master? and he does also? Different policy here the people are the alleged masters, all Americans, it`s called freedom.

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Reply#5 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:31 PM EST
{"commentId":4168248,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

Hence why Zawahiri finds Obama so dangerous: he represents to Muslims what can be achieved through the political process in America. Why destroy the one thing working in their favor?

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  • 4 votes
#5.1 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:38 PM EST
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{"commentId":4171772,"authorDomain":"duhbrat1"}

When you want war for wars sake, you tend to grasp at straws.  He also made the statement tht Obama was 'born of a muslim father' and challenged him to show that he was something other than a 'house negro'. Not sure if that was a plea for peace but it was an a$$backward one at best.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:18 PM EST
{"commentId":4172536,"authorDomain":"krishna109"}

" It's sad that they don't recognize how they are being played for fools."

They are brainwashed from early childhood. They really believe that slaughtering Jews and other kuffar ("Infidels") will guarantee them a place in heaven. These morons actually believe that Allah wants them to kill and maim. Parents even willingly send their kids to die-- here's a rather shocking short video clip: A mother's Love.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:52 PM EST
{"commentId":4172848,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

krishna:

This is where I was looking over Obama's security plan and felt that the $2B he is setting aside for opening schools around the world in impoverished nations (which are oozing, gaping wounds for the US when it comes to producing both organized criminals and terrorists) was an excellent idea because if the average Muslim family is going to be turned from a recruitment ground for Al Qaeda to a pro-American (or at least America neutral) group, they have to have an educational alternative to the madrassas. Madrassas, it seems to me, is a blend of the Catholic School I went to and Parris Island for Islamic radicalism. $2B doesn't go a long way worldwide but if other countries in Europe and Westernized Asian countries like Japan and Korea catch on and start contributing we can turn these people from a hostile separate culture into one that strives to not wreck Western society, but enter it and climb the ladder through education. Now that someone they can relate to has broken the glass ceiling in the most important job in the world, I don't think it is wasted money. If this wasn't someone that had Muslim family roots in the Oval Office then I would say that the $2B was wasted money because the audience would receive it as propaganda, like a joke. But now that Obama has succeeded where they thought they were locked out of, they can take it seriously and aspire to be big shots. Maybe Saudi Arabia might even stop sending all that oil money overseas to "charities" if we provide a secular educational alternative.

In fact, I think that reps from America and Saudi Arabia should sit down at a table and agree on a secular curriculum (or at least non-radical from a religious point of view) and America should front the money for the schools as a goodfaith gesture with Saudi money matching it, kind of like how we ran the Soviets out of Afghanistan except less people die.

If we create a rather secular Saudi Arabia to counteract a dogmatic Iran, I think that the Saudis win the influence game in the long term the same way that the West won against the Warsaw Pact: we drove them broke by outperforming them economically and using that influence to our advantage.

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  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:29 PM EST
{"commentId":4172855,"authorDomain":"duhbrat1"}

Funny those are Muslim extremists.  Seems that extremists in any religion are dangerous.

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#7.2 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:30 PM EST
{"commentId":4172905,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}

Funny those are Muslim extremists. Seems that extremists in any religion are dangerous.

I think that the mainstream portion of most faiths are peaceful. Unfortunately, lunatic, extremist fringes are noisier, giving the impression their point of view is accepted by the majority of their faith. It doesn't help that MSM likes to make a major production of every extreme nut-job occurrence. I swear I believe they do it to encourage divisiveness to provide more headlines.

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#7.3 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:36 PM EST
{"commentId":4172934,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

Brammy:

I've said before that those Westboro Baptist people are the American Taliban. Does that make you more comfortable since it's multi-denominational?

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#7.4 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:39 PM EST
{"commentId":4172946,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

Kyana:

I swear I believe they do it to encourage divisiveness to provide more headlines.

Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell did. They parlayed their religion into political movements and then into academia, forming their own law schools. Not that they shouldn't have accredited law schools but I'd rather have a degree from Harvard than Regents. ;-)

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#7.5 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:41 PM EST
{"commentId":4173323,"authorDomain":"krishna109"}

"If we create a rather secular Saudi Arabia to counteract a dogmatic Iran, I think that the Saudis win the influence game in the long term the same way that the West won against the Warsaw Pact: we drove them broke by outperforming them economically and using that influence to our advantage."

But what makes you think the Saudis would want to become secular? I would imagine that, from their point of view,the best way to counter-act the influence of a (Shiite) Iran is by spreading the Saudi brand of Sunni Islam.

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#7.6 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:36 PM EST
{"commentId":4173340,"authorDomain":"krishna109"}

"It doesn't help that MSM likes to make a major production of every extreme nut-job occurrence. I swear I believe they do it to encourage divisiveness to provide more headlines."

Do you think it would be betteer if they didn't report the news? IMO, much of the mainstream media tends to downplay terrorism (for example, denying that a terrorist act was indeed terrorism)..

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#7.7 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:38 PM EST
{"commentId":4175141,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}

for example, denying that a terrorist act was indeed terrorism

Can you give me an example of a specific incident you are referring to just to clarify?

In the art of spin, one tactic is to place more emphasis on a point than what that point actually warrants and neglecting to allow a look at the other side of that point. My example is the Westboro Church hate-mongers. I've repeatedly heard them referred to as Christian Fundamentalists without further clarification that the overwhelming majority of Christians view them, their views and their hateful behavior with total disgust, shock and horror. In neglecting that side of the story and instead focusing on the fact that these jerks call themselves Christians while engaging in this despicable behavior and that the members say that they are acting as the bible commands them to, all Christians get tainted by the newscasts.

The same can be said for reports on Islamic extremism. bin Laden et al claim to be engaging in horrors that are condoned and encouraged by the Quran. Although some reports do mention that most Muslims are people of peace because they interpret the Quran as being a Book that encourages peaceful and kind behavior towards others, often this information is neglected and in the barrage of reports about the atrocities committed by this relatively small percentage of Muslims, the perception of the whole Faith is besmirched.

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#7.8 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:49 AM EST
{"commentId":4175647,"authorDomain":"duhbrat1"}

Scott

Brammy:

I've said before that those Westboro Baptist people are the American Taliban. Does that make you more comfortable since it's multi-denominational?

Is this the KKK? LOL!!!  Seems like we also have Christian terrorists (I won't say so-called Christians because they really believe that they are Christians).  What about the Inquisition? I have said it before and will say it again.  ANY religion can be twisted to promote ANY idea when it is taken out of context.

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  • 2 votes
#7.9 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:13 AM EST
{"commentId":4178825,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

krishna:

But what makes you think the Saudis would want to become secular? I would imagine that, from their point of view,the best way to counter-act the influence of a (Shiite) Iran is by spreading the Saudi brand of Sunni Islam.

The House of Saud is at least partially in touch with reality because they have been taking their oil money and trying to diversify Saudi Arabia's economy before oil is no longer the lifeblood of the modern world.

They've also had their problems with Islamists trying to overthrow their rule so I can't imagine that they feel overly secure knowing these ideologues exist in their country.

Because they rule Mecca and Medina, they are the only ones in the Islamic world that can institute change. The writing is on the wall that the House of Saud is going to get burnt down by one of these Islamist embers if this keeps going on so how to get rid of them? Transition from madrassa to state education to make the next generation less radical and use money to give the extremists powerful incentive to go to, say, Iraq or Lebanon and kill Shiite radicals. Export Sunni radicalism but stop producing it. Otherwise, they've been playing with fire and you can only do that so many times until you accidentally burn down the building.

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  • 3 votes
#7.10 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:55 PM EST
{"commentId":4204840,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Scott, Saudi Arabia will become a secular Muslim country at approximately the same time as the Minnesota Vikings win the Super Bowl, i.e., never. I would be happy if they simply stopped funding these various @!$%#s around the world.

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#7.11 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:49 PM EST
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I read the article and the best I can tell from multiple sources, Al-Zawahiri refered to President elect Obama as a house slave, house negro, or Uncle Tom? Growing up and attending a segregated school in Alabama in the 1950s, I heard the term house slave only once. The label "Uncle Tom" I was familar with Mrs Stowe's book, "Uncle Tom's Cabin."  I was attending the University of Minnesota before I found out that the label "house slave" was an insult. My primary source of information on slaves were trashy novels about slavery that became popular in the 1970s.  My first thought was that Al-Zawahiri had been reading trashy novels about slavery or had taken a course in African American Studies. He was clear why he called President-elect Obama an "Uncle Tom."  Maybe he should have said turncoat or traitor.  Al-Zawahiri is having trouble determining what Obama's election means. he is not sure what to make of the event and what it means for the Middle East and the Arab World. He is not alone.

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    Reply#8 - Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:20 PM EST
    {"commentId":4174173,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    If that's the case, at least they're the ones behind the curve this time and not us.

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    #8.1 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:12 AM EST
    {"commentId":4178529,"authorDomain":"duhbrat1"}

    Well the term in the 70s, the term was 'house "something"' was less politically correct than 'house negro' or 'house slave'.  Uncle Toming was a frequent accusation against those perceived as more successful.

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    #8.2 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:18 PM EST
    {"commentId":4178746,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    Brammy:

    I think that Zawahiri intended to call Obama by the "house 'something'" name from the 70's but here in America we'd rather not translate it that literally.

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    #8.3 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:45 PM EST
    {"commentId":4178856,"authorDomain":"duhbrat1"}

    Too true Scott which is why I found it hilarious seeing that the term for them, most UN-pc is 'sand "somethings"'  The closed captioning on the tape FROM Zawahiri was 'house negro'.  Those were not added by the media from what I understand. Maybe he knew better than to use the other?  They have no name for 'negro' or 'something' the closest translation was slave.

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    #8.4 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:59 PM EST
    {"commentId":4179222,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    Brammy:

    Apparently Adam Gadahn wasn't around to offer that little bit of Americana to the translators on Z's video. ;-)

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    #8.5 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:49 PM EST
    {"commentId":4204847,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

    The Orange County holy warrior is most likely kaput.

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    #8.6 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:50 PM EST
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