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Wright Flight? Will Wright Cause Whites To Run From Obama?

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Reverend Jeremiah Wright forced Barack Obama into this position. Becoming a father figure to Obama (in the absence of Obama's own father), Jeremiah Wright decided to do a despicable thing. Putting a young man that considered him a father figure into a difficult position by making comments detrimental to him, that young man gave his father figure the benefit of the doubt. After being cut that slack from Obama, Jeremiah Wright then proceeded to take that slack and attempt to hang Barack Obama with it for his own selfish reasons.

Jeremiah Wright is a proud man, apparently too proud to realize that everyone in his church does not have to agree with everything that he preaches from the pulpit. Indeed, sources that know Wright have made the point that Barack Obama's speech which did not personally distance Obama from Wright, saying he could not divorce himself from Wright anymore than he could from his own grandmother, started the spat. Wright took this separation of Obama from his radical ideas as a personal insult and seems to have planned three straight speaking engagements in which that he could do the most damage to Barack Obama while doing the most for himself. As he was savaging Barack Obama, saying that Obama did not believe what he claimed to in his speeches and essentially calling Obama a liar. Real friends, real mentors and real pastors do not do such things to the members of their flock. They don't attempt to embarrass them in public.

While Wright betrayed no emotion as he excoriated Obama on the national stage, Obama showed both sadness and anger that their relationship had to be this way. Sadly, I believe that Pastor Jeremiah Wright's only prerogative is to transfer the good luck he had to have as one of his congregates the first legitimate black presidential candidate into a national audience for his pet sermons, his worst accusations about the government and the white race along with a healthy dose of the root of all evil: the love of money. Pastor Wright has mentioned more than a few times that he will have a book coming out later this year that will reveal his theological/racial ramblings in greater depth than his speeches have. One does have to credit Wright with something: at least he is upfront about his naked ambition by pushing his book in the middle of his speeches.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright represents, to me, what is wrong with this country. He is like the parent that takes their child to Hollywood with $$$ in their eyes and tries to cash in, not concerned with the welfare of the child in the process. Wright became close to a young man without a father, brought him into the Christian faith and then, when the opportunity arose, tried to sacrifice Obama's career to boost his own with no regard for Obama's wellbeing. Indeed, once Obama publicly caused any problems with Rev. Wright promoting himself, he declared war on Obama himself. Jeremiah Wright is not a man of God... he is a man of Jeremiah Wright. He is our for himself and himself alone. Wright is a predator, plain and simple, no better than any other man and unfit to return to the pulpit because of his attempted destruction of Obama's candidacy which surely represents the principles of Christ more than Wright does by pursuing reconciliation among the races and a moving forward of this people as American, not -Americans. For that reason Barack Obama has cut his ties with Wright and that is why it is voters should cease listening to Wright.

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Will Jeremiah Wright spell katy bar the door for white flight from Barack Obama's campaign?

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Reply#1 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:34 AM EDT
{"commentId":1749388,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}

Nah, I don't think so. Obama supporters were never really bothered by any of this Wright stuff. It's the people who oppose Obama that seem to be upset about it. His supporters just want all this to end so we can get back to the issues that matter.

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#1.1 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:50 AM EDT
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{"commentId":1749991,"authorDomain":"nattyreb"}

Scott wrote: "As (Wright) was savaging Barack Obama..." among other incredible comments!

Don't you think that's a bit much, even by Newsvine standards?

I completely reject your (and others) horrific mischaracterizations of Rev. Wright's messages. But hey, that's politics.

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#1.3 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:52 AM EDT
{"commentId":1750029,"authorDomain":"damiankd"}

White, upper-middle-class guy here. I'm an Obama supporter, and the Wright issue doesn't scare me away from Obama. I do not agree with the notion that the US created and propagated the AIDS virus -- hasn't Farrakhan been saying that for years? I do agree that American foreign policies have contributed in some way to incite religious extremism and terrorism, and continues to do so.

In my opinion, there is some truth in Wrights words, but I do not agree with all that the media has reported. I also understand Obama's political need to distance himself from Wright -- there is no way that, in our current media environment, Obama can effectively explain how he can be friends with a person that makes those statements. He tried with his race speech, and as eloquent and thoughtful as it was, many of the news reports and articles I read missed the point because that point cannot be trimmed down to a 30 second clip.

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#1.4 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:04 AM EDT
{"commentId":1750249,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

Cheryl:

I completely reject your (and others) horrific mischaracterizations of Rev. Wright's messages. But hey, that's politics.

If he had stopped before the National Press Club speech and interview, I wouldn't have been so hard on him Cheryl. As it is though, can you say that he even cares about Barack Obama after the position he has put him in? Obama is fighting to be the first black president and Wright comes out and says the most embarrassing conspiracy theories he can think of and then has the audacity to say Obama is lying when Obama says he doesn't subscribe to those beliefs! That is a stab in the back with a really long knife... someone that can do that to me makes me wonder if we were ever really friends to start with.

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#1.5 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
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Scott, I believe that they both feel something for one another, otherwise there would have been no bruised feelings on either part. Rev. Wright didn't say anything different at the Press Club than he has said in the past, so what he said there was no more "savage" than what he expressed in Detroit the previous day.

The point that should be made, instead of continuing to villify Rev. Wright, is that the mainstream media has once again succeeded in taking what they perceive as "uppity" Obama down a peg or two.

The power that they wield is something to behold! IMO the only good thing to come out of all of this is that hopefully any onlookers who weren't aware of the power of corporate media are no longer so naive. Their ability to completely shape opinions in such a way that before your very eyes transform words and events into something entirely different than what actually occurred is worthy of any illusionist. Daily they all parrot each other's talking points even down to the specific verbiage and headlines used.

I think that's something to always consider when people are being demonized, regardless of who they may be.

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#1.6 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
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Cheryl:

Scott, I believe that they both feel something for one another, otherwise there would have been no bruised feelings on either part. Rev. Wright didn't say anything different at the Press Club than he has said in the past, so what he said there was no more "savage" than what he expressed in Detroit the previous day.

I think that it was certainly clear on Obama's part that he was both saddened it had come to this as well as intensely angry that Wright would question his veracity in public. The National Press Club appearance sealed the deal because that is when Wright essentially labeled Barack Obama as a liar saying that Obama was just like Wright but was lying about it to obtain office. I believe that this is what hurt Obama so deeply and finally pushed him to the point of publicly cutting ties with Wright. I myself have been stabbed in the back by some close to me and it hurts greatly and the only way to move past it is to cut them out of your life like the cancer that they are.

The point that should be made, instead of continuing to villify Rev. Wright, is that the mainstream media has once again succeeded in taking what they perceive as "uppity" Obama down a peg or two.

I agree with this being frontrunner syndrome, however, I don't think that if Wright truly considered Obama like a godson that he would have gleefully taken part in "taking Obama down a few pegs" as you have so accurately put it.

The power that they wield is something to behold! IMO the only good thing to come out of all of this is that hopefully any onlookers who weren't aware of the power of corporate media are no longer so naive. Their ability to completely shape opinions in such a way that before your very eyes transform words and events into something entirely different than what actually occurred is worthy of any illusionist. Daily they all parrot each other's talking points even down to the specific verbiage and headlines used.

This is the worst of what Howard Dean and then Obama have termed "Gotcha!" politics in which the media, in search of a story, connects a candidate to a somewhat tangential group or person from their past and makes a big deal about it. I think that the selfish mistake Wright made was to play along with the media in trying to destroy Obama simply for his own personal benefit whether it was to maintain his pride, sell his book, increase his notoriety outside the black community or all three. IMHO, a real man of God would not use one of his flock's coattails to make a point while destroying that person. It's not very Christ-like to me.

I think that's something to always consider when people are being demonized, regardless of who they may be.

I agree. I also think that Wright's insistence on inflating his own fame as well as making as much money as possible from his book based on his connection to Obama indicates that he was being rightly demonized.

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#1.7 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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I'm more upset that Barack didn't embrace Rev. Wright's "extreme" views even more. The pastor told the truth about this country and people couldn't handle it. Now I consider Barack Obama a sellout just like all the others. I'm stuck between Wayne Allyn Root, George Phillies and Cynthia McKinney. I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils again. It's like do you want war in Iraq, war in Iran, or war in Pakistan. All three of them voted to extend the Patriot Act in 2005. Though I don't wish for the damning of America, it has been a long time coming for our dirty deeds after WWII.

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    Reply#2 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:09 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1750189,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    I'm sorry, did you say we don't need to be at war in Pakistan?

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    #2.1 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:52 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":1750838,"authorDomain":"shell-ii-1"}

    I wonder how much influence Obama had in the 'retirement' of Rev. Wright? Obama may have publicly said one thing and caused the Rev. Wright to be fired privately.

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    Reply#3 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:23 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1751067,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    Perhaps that is a factor in Wright's decidedly negative attitude towards Obama and his interest in trying to destroy Obama and inflate himself in the process. It was shameful for someone that calls himself a man of God, IMO.

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    #3.1 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1751078,"authorDomain":"ktdid"}

    This white person isn't going anywhere. I am in agreement with Damian.

    It would be nice if the media would stop asking people if they think the Wright thing will go away - over and over again. Enough already.

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    Reply#4 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1751097,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    So Obama cutting ties with him yesterday is pretty much the end of it for you then? I'm trying to get an accurate gauge of how this will affect Obama's supporters on the whole.

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    #4.1 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:20 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1751630,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}

    Just about everyhting you wrote is wrong, but I will grant you one thing, you are following the Obama playbook.

    Wright was just given a brand new mansion on a golf course by his congregation. In addition I'm sure he already receives a handsome salary. He is not doing this for money.

    Jeremiah Wright was handed the opportunity to go out and proselytize for what he believes in- which is ( no surprise here) BLACKNESS. He was now on a stage way bigger than any of the thousands he has preached on throughout his long and distinguished career. This was his chance to tell the world that he and James Cone and the Black Panthers and Louis Farrakhan and all the Afrocentric scholars like Leonard Jefferies and Frances Cress- Welsing were right and everyone else was wrong. This was his chance to once and for all promote a black and African centered worldview WITHIN the United States to a huge audience, for everyone would either be listening or watching live or hear or read about it shortly thereafter.

    Wright never though Obama would throw him down the stairs over these remarks. He thought Obama would throw him a private party.

    But eyes on the Presidency prize have a way of straining these relationships.

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    Reply#5 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1751669,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    I see. I wrote the man was out for himself but everything I wrote was wrong. Isn't that essentially what you just said? He was out for himself?

    And I think you're wrong if you believe Wright doesn't need more money... MC Hammer went broke in record time blowing through millions of dollars. I'm convinced that, with as many times as Wright has mentioned his book in these interviews, that making money is a part of why he is pimping out his connection to Obama. Does it really matter if it's a single reason or a confluence of reasons for why he has decided to try to destroy Obama to make himself bigger on the national stage?

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    #5.1 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1751716,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}

    He wasn't out for himself, he was out for a cause. HIS cause, to be sure. But the cause is what propeled this.

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    #5.2 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1751732,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

    I think in Wright's mind, Wright and his cause have fused into one entity so that in his judgment what is good for one is good for the other.

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    #5.3 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1752197,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

    I think that the Reverend was correct when he asserted that his views are inspired by Authority higher than any pundit, poll or Presidential campaign staff. To stand on a podium and retract or modify a sermon is to say that the sermon was not inspired by Scripture, akin to the Pope admitting there was some sort of mistake on a sermon on Canon Law.

    To propose that dogma should, or appear, non-controversial is to imply that Faith has no true grounding. I, and I suspect, most of the Reverend's flock would be very disappointed in his conviction over his pronouncements of faith.

    What is telling here is the Reverend's choice to appear in a national press conference after weeks ofessentially laying low. The fact that he took questions and did not simply issue a statement througha spokesperson is even more interesting. Perhaps he was making sure that all the vitriol that resultedfrom the video snippets and sound bites could be answered point by point and that he is capable of an even toned conversation
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    From all appearances, he is a man of intelligence and wit and therefore must have known that the questions, and his answers, would harm Senator Obama's campaign to some degree. Was he trying to get back at the Senator for distancing himself, or was he simply asseritng his position as a cleric?

    In any case, their long standing ties have been severed, for now, and the Senator, no doubt, will continue with his campaign.

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