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Is Bill Clinton Really Lee Atwater? You Betcha!

Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:48 PM EST
politics, barack-obama, president, democrat, florida, hillary-clinton, bill-clinton, south-carolina, iowa, new-hampshire, joe-biden, primary, john-edwards, dennis-kucinich, bill-richardson, caucus, chris-dodd
By Scott Isaacs

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Are the Clintons trying to pigeonhole Barack Obama as the "black" candidate?

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    Yes
    88%
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    13%

VoteTotal Votes: 48

The Bill Clinton version of a Willie Horton?

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Former chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party and Barack Obama supporter Dick Harpootlian said today that Bill Clinton was like Lee Atwater in how he was using race to try to manipulate presidential politics. Asked by CNN's Jessica Yellin what he thought of that, his answer made me think of an old law school adage: he that doth not deny confirms. Clinton proceeded to go on a rant lasting several minutes about how the media was "stealing" the election from South Carolina voters, none of which had shown up to ask him anything about Lee Atwater or racial politics. He chastised Yellin for pursuing her own agenda and said that the only reason that they were even talking about the comment is because they (read: the media) wanted to talk about it. He didn't mention that few if any of the people at the campaign event likely even knew that he had been compared to Atwater. It seems unlikely that no one in an audience fully aware of the comment would ask about it.

Let's back up for a moment... okay, okay, two decades but the history lesson will be over quick. Lee Atwater was the adviser who came up in the rough and tumble, racial politics of South Carolina that dug up the information that Michael Dukakis had let out on furlough a fellow named William R. Horton. Mr. Horton was a convicted murderer doing life without parole and, whilst on furlough, he committed armed robbery and rape. Lee Atwater turned William Horton into Willie Horton, the wild-eyed black felon asking, to take a page out of Mel Brooks' book, "Where's all the white womens at?" It was this negative black stereotype that Atwater blew up larger than life and then went negative on Dukakis with, absolutely eviscerating him. Now that you know Willie and Lee's part of the story, let's get back to Slick Willie's interpretation of Atwater.

Bill Clinton knows racial politics. He was the boy from Hope, Arkansas, the segregated town in the South that would give birth to one President as well as another serious presidential contender, Mike Huckabee. Bill Clinton knows how white people think, particularly post-WWII white people all over this country, particularly in the South. Clinton's Atwater move, just like everything else about him, has been slick and smooth. First he sent surrogates like Bill Shaheen out to remind everyone that Barack Obama experimented with drugs and to wonder aloud whether he sold them. Mission number one accomplished: label Barack Obama with the negative stereotype that black men face every single day and that Clinton claimed he understood and empathized with: that they are a walking felony machine, smoking crack and slinging it. Then they sent a successful black man out to hammer the attack home: "...while Hillary Clinton was out working on issues that matter to black people, Barack Obama was down in the neighborhood... I ain't gonna say what he was doin', but he talks about it in his book." Then Hillary made the oh-so-astute observation that while Martin Luther King Jr. was an inspirational leader, the civil rights movement wasn't going anywhere until Lyndon Baines Johnson stepped in and took the reins. All of this has been calculated since the aftermath of the Iowa caucuses where the Clintons found out, much to their chagrin, that white people weren't afraid to vote for a black candidate for president like they used to be.

Barack Obama was transcending race from the beginning of his campaign all the way through his decisive win in the Iowa caucuses. He wasn't mentioning he was black, nobody else was mentioning he was black. America had gotten over its self-flagellating obsession with race. Then in rode the Clintons. From that juncture they have made it a point to highlight both through their surrogates as well as through Bill and Hillary's own "complimentary" comments about his skin tone that Barack Obama is a black man. Their current theory is that if they can put an end to Obama transcending the race issue by addressing the change needed in this country and identifying himself as the candidate that can bring that change, they will win. If they can stuff him back under the glass ceiling that exists for any presidential candidate considered "black" by the voting public like Al Sharpton, they can win. They will alienate and give up the 13% of African-American votes if that means they can re-open the fault lines of race that Obama had closed when he was thrashing Clinton and make him "that black candidate" that Obama worked so hard to not be labeled as. Bill and Hillary both know that Edwards ceased to be a threat long ago and that if they can hitch Obama's wagon to the African-American star, they can sail to the nomination with the white vote.

It's about time that someone called Bill Clinton out on this. Bill Clinton was called "the first black president" by author Toni Morrison. Apparently he's viewing Obama's candidacy as the championship fight and he wants to retain his title. The Clintons have given lip service to Martin Luther King Jr's dream this entire campaign, but when it comes down to the practicality of it, they're not interested. They don't want Barack Obama to be judged by the content of his character, they want him to be judged by the color of his skin. They are betraying King's dream with polite platitudes and reminding every voter whose ear they can bend that Barack Obama is a black man that used to work in the slums and experimented with drugs. His policy ideas don't matter. His leadership abilities don't matter. His judgment doesn't matter. All that matters is that he is one of two obstacles left between Hillary having the power she's always dreamed of having and Bill having the power he enjoyed immensely for eight years returned to him. If you'll excuse me, I need to go shower. The Clintons' efforts to smother idealism and bipartisanship in its crib has left me feeling extremely dirty.

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  • Public Discussion (13)
Scott Isaacs

Are Bill and Hillary pulling their version of a Willie Horton on Barack Obama?

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:53 PM EST
brian-l

I just do not see it. The only thing the Clinton's are trying to marginalize is Sen. Obama's experience and voting record. That has nothing to do with race. The belief that just because a candidate is African-American, someone who is white can no longer criticize him on policy is pure racism at its worst. The only racist ideas I am hearing are the attempts to slather the disgusting politics of Lee Atwater onto Bill Clinton. I am disappointed in Sen. Obama's operatives for being the only ones I am seeing and hearing inject racial stereotypes and racism into this campaign. The "Lee Atwater" comment has taken me squarely off my support for Sen. Obama being the Democratic presidential nominee and back into the undecided column. If this is how he deals with Bill Clinton, in my opinion a decidedly good man, I can only imagine the whining that will come forth when the Republicans sink their teeth into him. During this campaign, I have heard more sexism concerning Sen. Clinton being a woman than racism directed at Sen. Obama. In fact, the only racism I keep hearing is being directed at the Clintons.

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:30 PM EST
Scott Isaacs

Would you care to explain why Obama NEVER refers to his race and the Clintons do every other day?

Someone can be a good person and be so powerhungry they'd do damn near anything to win, I suppose, so I guess that you and I aren't in conflict about Bill. I guess you don't think Lee Atwater was a good man?

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:26 PM EST
MarK Koulogeorge

After Bill Clinton's commentary post the South Carolina primary
comparing Obama's victory with Jesse Jackson's primary victory 20 years ago, there can be NO DOUBT that Clinton is playing racial politics a la Lee Atwater. There is only one reason to invoke Jackson's name instead of mentioning some of the far more recent Democratic primary winner in South Carolina (e.g. Edwards in 2004)--that is to interject race into the election.

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:37 PM EST
Scott Isaacs

Man, Bill just does not know when to shut up.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:39 PM EST
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Deron Dantzler

Good article that highlights some of my own contentions. The Clinton's are running a very successful campaign to marginalize Obama as the token black candidate. The strategy seems to be working. I will be surprised if Obama takes any states except those in the deep south (see Jesse Jackson's 1988 Primary Results), and his own state Illinois. I am really shocked and saddened that the public is falling for this.

The Bill Clinton administration benefited by the economic boom of the 90s. This had nothing to do with their oversight, and everything to do with the times and the technological advancements including the dot-com boom. The only damn thing they did for the economy aside from that was support NAFTA, which is a disaster.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:03 AM EST
Cliff Potter

Scott - You have certainly called out Bill Clinton, haven't you. But is this article at all fair, much less balanced? Absolutely not. From your racist reference to Bill Clinton coming from Arkansas, to your wholly inaccurate reference to the use of Willie Horton, your position is not only unfair, but absolutely unsupported by the facts.

It is funny that you, who constantly claims that I need to look at something when I provide facts, and constantly assert that I am being unfair or shading things, would provide us with a story this distastefully inappropriate.

The level of your hate is palpable. But let's take one important fact that you completely misrepresent as a signally important one in this entire polemic of yours. Although you repeat the wild claims in this article as fact, you fail to indicate even once that it is articles like yours that create the artifice upon which the lies of racism are born.

If there is any racism here, it is anyone who would make racism claims against white people who are not and have never been racists. And by the way, the reference to the "first black president" was made by someone who is black, and was one of the first questions in the South Carolina debate. This statement is not raised by Bill Clinton or his wife. It is at times addressed in response to someone else's question or statement. But that too is racist, I am certain, from your perspective.

    Reply#3 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:22 PM EST
    Deron Dantzler

    The "first black president" question was contained in the later part of the debate.

      #3.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:52 PM EST
      Cliff Potter

      My recollection is otherwise. But if you are basing this on the quantity of words rather than questions dealing with separately identifiable, then it is quite possible that more words were said in response to the few questions at the beginning of the debate than later on.

        #3.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:52 PM EST
        Deron Dantzler

        No problem anyway, when it happened doesn't really matter. I just thought it was in the 2nd half of the debate when all the candidates were sitting down after the argument occurred. That is if we're talking about the same thing, where Obama complimented Bill's record with the African Americans and set he'd have to check out his dance moves or whatever.

          #3.3 - Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:23 PM EST
          Scott Isaacs

          Cliff:

          Scott - You have certainly called out Bill Clinton, haven't you. But is this article at all fair, much less balanced? Absolutely not. From your racist reference to Bill Clinton coming from Arkansas, to your wholly inaccurate reference to the use of Willie Horton, your position is not only unfair, but absolutely unsupported by the facts.

          Since Bill isn't going to come out and say "Hey white people, Obama is a black guy and you know you can't trust them because they take drugs and commit felonies!" then, yes, I did have to put together a wide range of incidences committed by Bill, Hillary and people that are directly connected to them to paint the entire strategy of what Bill is trying to do to Barack. And that strategy, as I pointed out, is to make Barack just another black guy trying to be President instead of the transformative, unifying and groundbreaking candidate that he is.

          It is funny that you, who constantly claims that I need to look at something when I provide facts, and constantly assert that I am being unfair or shading things, would provide us with a story this distastefully inappropriate.

          Cliff, I don't think it is distasteful or inappropriate to shine a light on the Clinton campaign's strategy to win the Democratic nomination. While I'm sure that it is uncomfortable for people to read (I know that it was uncomfortable for me to realize they were doing this and then write the piece because I had great respect for Bill Clinton as a statesman prior to this), I do think that people need to know the truth and understand it when they are weighing whom to support for the most important elected office in the land.

          The level of your hate is palpable. But let's take one important fact that you completely misrepresent as a signally important one in this entire polemic of yours. Although you repeat the wild claims in this article as fact, you fail to indicate even once that it is articles like yours that create the artifice upon which the lies of racism are born.

          It is not hate. I don't have hate for Bill or Hillary Clinton. I reserve my hate for people like Osama Bin Laden. Also, articles like this do not create the artifice and foundation upon which racism rests. It holds a mirror up to America and, particularly, the people who want to exploit America's flaws for their own profit. Can you really say that the Clintons are making a concerted effort to argue that Hillary Clinton's policy stances and plans for this nation are better than Barack Obama's? Or are they making a concerted effort to "compliment" her black opponent on how far he has come?

          If there is any racism here, it is anyone who would make racism claims against white people who are not and have never been racists. And by the way, the reference to the "first black president" was made by someone who is black, and was one of the first questions in the South Carolina debate. This statement is not raised by Bill Clinton or his wife. It is at times addressed in response to someone else's question or statement. But that too is racist, I am certain, from your perspective.

          I am not making racist claims. I am revealing that the emperor has no clothes. Bill Clinton is not a racist. I did not say he was a racist. Bill Clinton is utilizing a political parlor trick that has been used for 200 years in this country with great success: illustrating that your opponent is black. A great deal of white people are comfortable with black people who do not tout their race. They are willing to accept and embrace a black person that does not define themselves as black, but rather define themselves as a person. That division is easy to see when you compare Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton's presidential bids to that of Barack Obama's. The former's led to abject failure because they loudly proclaimed their race and talked about their race and made their race an issue in the campaign. The latter had great success when he avoided talking about race. Obama from the beginning has been unpretentious and has avoided like the plague talk that he would be the first black president. He hasn't trumpeted what a great accomplishment that would be, even though it would be a great accomplishment. The reason he hasn't is that he knows there are white people that came of age in a time that gives them mixed, visceral feelings about race that make them not like candidates like Jackson and Sharpton. The Clintons realized that Obama had found a way to receive the support of these white people who had reflexive negative reactions to candidates like Jackson and Sharpton which made their candidacies a joke from Day 1 and set about recasting and redefining Barack Obama from a candidate whose race didn't matter into a candidate in the mold of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. The Clintons aren't racist, but clearly they aren't above exploiting the country's troubled past with race to defeat the first black candidate with a good chance to make it to the Oval Office. I find that troubling and disheartening, particularly coming from someone like Bill Clinton who has been considered a great friend to black Americans. And yes, I also know that Toni Morrisson is African-American and I have known that ever since I read her literature as an undergrad at Miami University of Ohio.

          • 5 votes
          #3.4 - Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:01 AM EST
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